I found this gem comment the other day while doing some background on LENR:
“I do not think it is “amazing that the media has not paid more attention to” Rossi. His claims seem astounding. They resemble those of many previous energy scams. Reporters and scientists dismiss Rossi for this reason.
I would dismiss him myself if I did know that hundreds of other researchers have seen similar effects thousands of times. I myself have spent weeks in laboratories watching cold fusion gadgets produce heat. It is boring after a while.
Knowing that the effect has been widely replicated in hundreds of major laboratories puts everything in a different perspective. It makes Rossi far more believable. Believability in experimental physics is predicated on two things: independent replication and a high signal to noise ratio. Cold fusion met these goals back in 1990. There is not a single rational reason to doubt it exists.
The thing is, most reporters and scientists, and people such as Glen Doty know nothing at all about cold fusion. They do not realize it exists. They have not read any papers on the subject. So naturally they say “I’m confident that this is a fraud…” In 1906, three years after Kitty Hawk and one year after the Wrights flew in front a large crowd of leading citizens of Dayton Ohio for 40 minutes, every single newspaper and magazine in the U.S. — especially Scientific American — denounced them as frauds, charlatans and lunatics. Not one of those newspapers bothered to send someone to Dayton to ask the bank president and others if they had really seen a flight.
The editors at Scientific American today are no smarter than their predecessors. They told me they have never read a paper on cold fusion “because reading papers is not our job” but they are sure it is fraud and lunacy. (I uploaded that letter.)
“The real question is not why is the mass media is ignoring Rossi, but why have they ignored the rest of cold fusion for 22 years? My answer: because they are stupid, and incurious.” – JedRothwell, May 4, 2011
This bears repeating: “Knowing that the effect has been widely replicated in hundreds of major laboratories puts everything in a different perspective.”
To drive home the point: Ni+H(heated under pressure)=Cu+lots of heat. This phenomenon (LENR) has been confirmed in hundreds of published scientific papers: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJtallyofcol.pdf
Here is a PowerPoint presentation by George Miley of the University of Illinois who has successfully replicated the LENR “cold fusion” reaction.
Knowing the LENR exothermic reaction has been widely replicated, you ought to assess how much energy we gain with this new clean energy technology. According to Rossi’s patient one gram of nickel ought to yield the energy equivalent of about 500 kilograms (not tons, which was a mistake) of oil. This means that nickel is about half a million times as energy dense as oil (or about one hundred thousand times as energy dense as diesel fuel) using LENR.
Nickel is about 3% of the mass of the Earth, whereas all fossil fuels combined (even oil sands and methane hydrate) are less than a billionth that amount.
Here is another gem internet comment:
“Ramifications
Scalable: Nuclear energy densities from µW to GW
Portable: Little or no need for radiation shielding
Adaptable to the full range of transportation systems
Does not have the weight, safety, and costs of fission
Revolutionizes Aviation and Access to Space
Decouples energetics from reaction mass
Fuel mass essentially goes away for air-breathing applications, reduces total mass
No GHG (CO2, H2O, aerosols, …) concerns
Fuel is very cheap (Nickel abundant, electrolysis of H2O)
Total replacement of fossil fuels for everything but synthetic organic chemistry” -Sept 22, 2011 LENR Brief @ GRC – J.M.Zawodny 27
Couldn’t have said it better myself. The paradigms are so broken man – maybe we can create paradise on Earth and settle the other planets of our solar system. Frankly, it seems like the main barrier to fast LENR integration is psychological.
“Sorry, but convoluted frauds involving lots of parties is the least likely. So are 3 groups of science observers too stupid to recognize an obvious fraud. Also, there are enough other NiH results which suggest a LENR reaction.”
Sorry, nickel is abundant, but not so abundant — its content in earth crust being not exorbitant 3% but about 70 ppm (0.007%). It’s however more abundant than for instance copper (60 ppm) and with eCat purpose in mind virtualy inexhaustible. In fact, about 1% of its production could cover all the humanitiy’s energy needs.
In space it is even more abundant (1.6% in stone meteorits), being third technical metal (after iron and magnesium) in its availability.
As for nonbelivers in LENR, have you ever heard of Moon Hoax? Apollo Eagle sits preaty on Moon for everybody to see, but it obviously doesn’t exist. Maybe the Moon itself is a hoax, something that evil scientists just put into our imagination!
praos, unfortunately the worst non-believers appear to be scientists, the old joke of an evil scientist has to be re-vamped to include the ones who have debunked and hidden Cold Fusion for 23 years, destroying careers in the process and the lives of all those people suffering the lack of clean water etc. delayed by these scientists.
The same thing is occurring in many areas but another clear case is, The Placebo Effect, known for thousands of years but denied and debunked by closed-minded science only concerned with following Dogma.
Only open-minded unbiased research in appropriate in all cases, and any scientist who says it cannot be true before the research is done is a traitor to science.
“Most nickel on Earth is inaccessible because it is locked away in the planet’s iron-nickel molten core, which is 10 % nickel. The total amount of nickel dissolved in the sea has been calculated to be around 8 billion tons. Organic matter has a strong ability to absorb the metal which is why coal and oil contain considerable amounts. The nickel content in soil can be as low as 0.2 ppm or as high as 450 ppm in some clay and loamy soils. The average is around 20 ppm. Nickel occurs in some beans where it is an essential component of some enzymes. Another relatively rich source of nickel is tea which has 7.6 mg/kg of dried leaves.
Nickel occurs combined with sulphur in millerite, with arsenic in the mineral niccolite, and with arsenic and sulphur in nickel glance. Most ores from which nickel is extracted are iron-nickel sulphides, such as pentlandite. The metal is mined in Russia, Australia, New Caledonia, Cuba, Canada and South Africa. Annual production exceeds 500.000 tons and easily workable reserves will last at least 150 years.”
Read more: http://www.lenntech.com/periodic/elements/ni.htm#ixzz1gJUEqROM
One day science will wake up and maybe start doing some real science, science needs more thinkers and not so many followers of Dogma,
http://www.science20.com/alpha_meme/regress_type_arguments_are_single_biggest_problem_all_fundamental_science_and_philosophy-85402
Rossi is in alle opzichten uitstekend aan het werk ,de practische toepassingen zullen het onweerlegbare bewijs vormen ,geen enkele kracht zal instaat zijn om deze geest”” in de fles te krijgen.Nog even gestuntel van de onwetenden en gespartel van lopende en opstapel staande energieprojecten zo ook radeloze overheden( denk aan belastingen) zullen het succes van deze energieproductie kunnen verhinderen.
Everyone knows that something is impossible, until it reaches a fool who does not know and invents.
Albert Einstein
Nobody knows for sure if Rossi’s device consumes Nickel, maybe not even Rossi. It could be that that the heat is purely from proton-proton fusion and the Ni-Cu transmutations are rare side reactions.
Protons are abundant.
That’s actually a little known good point. That’s how little we actually know of what is going on in the Nickel Hydrogen system.
Scientists are committing the cardinal sin of science.
They are defending their models of reality. It is the job of scientists to destroy models. It is only if a model is robust that it withstands the continual bombardment of experiments aimed at disproving the model.
Think of these ideas as little boats sent onto a river and everyone gets a great deal of enjoyment trying to sink them. If the little boat is unsinkable it receives great honour. But it is only as good as the next stone hurled at it.
True scientists should rejoice at the cold fusion results. It will give them a large pile of ammunition to destroy false ideas.
They are conflating their models with their own psyche, as though they themselves would vanish in a puff of smoke if the Coulomb barrier were breached.
This is typical of Left Hemisphere dominance. The Left has no insight and cannot ascertain that its view of reality is just a model.
They should play music. The Right knows when a note is wrong. It has insight.
This is what Einstein meant when he said that an idea was beautiful, and therefore must be right.
Complex of superiority or stupidity? I cannot blame my colleagues
Scientists neither mainstream masse- scientific medias being myself
interested by Cold Fusion a little only 2y ago and truly since last Janv
2011.
I also believe that Andrea Rossi has not been able to control the
reaction as well as he would like, and this may be part of the shyness, and
it may be awhile before we resolve precise environment needed and its
proper control for commercial use ect…..
Respect
Kim
keep up the good work Brad
Dear Mr. Rossi,
think not only in megawatts.
Also µW are interesting.
The world’s smallest Stirling engine measures a few micrometers. Built in Stuttgart Germany:
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-12-world-smallest-steam-micrometers.html
That’s the advantage of LENR energy: Scalable Nuclear energy densities from µW to GW.
Greetings LENR4you
when i see independant verification i will believe it. until then i’ll wait for Rossi to make me some water out of wine for christmas.
The more I look at Rossi’s work, the more I believe he has an answer to our energy needs. Also impressed with Robert Gode’s theory and experiments in same areas. http://brillouinenergy.com/
*** because they are stupid, and incurious
Yes indeed. And because is much more easy to do nothing and ignore instead of following multiple information sources, comparing, using common sense, analyzing and drawing conclusions.
Never heard of lazy bureaucrats achieving big things …
I believe the lenr should be classed as innocent until proven guilty or right until proven wrong. It is a lot like scientific theories. There have been a lot of replications of lenr. Let’s hope that they are not all hoaxs.