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Interview with an LENR pioneer who likely needs little introduction: Dr. Michael McKubre. Dr. McKubre is an accomplished electrochemist who has been working in the field of Cold Fusion for over 20 years. He joined Stanford Research Institute in the late 1970s and has served as their Director of Energy Research up till the present day. He has made countless contributions to the field, including important replications in the mid 1990s that demonstrated an important correlation between excess heat and helium production in a variety of experimental setups. He was one of the driving forces in achieving a DOE review of cold fusion in 2004. In 2009 he was interviewed for and prominently featured on the 60-Minutes segment: Cold Fusion is Hot Again, in which the successes of Cold Fusion over the past 20 years were brought into focus.

Early on Dr. McKubre discusses his transition into the field of Cold Fusion having had experience with palladium/deuterium systems in previous work. He presents a clear overview of his experimental efforts spanning from 1989 until 2000. Much of it devoted to verifying A) whether excess heat was a reality, and B) whether there was a statistically significant correlation between excess heat and helium production (as per Miles).

We discuss the work leading up to the 2004 DOE review of Cold Fusion, and the mixed outcomes that resulted from it. He argues that skeptical arguments against LENR have remained rather stagnant, and have not evolved much at all over the years. He applauds skeptic turned promoter Dr. Rob Duncan for his open mind and efforts in promoting the field since 2009. We also discuss the work of Dr. Irving Dardik of the Energetics Group and their use of complex waveforms to increase loading, flux, and reliability.

In regards to which company’s system goes to market first (Rossi, Defkalion, or Brillouine), Dr. McKubre had this to say: “I don’t think first matters…if anyone gets to the market place there will be a position to setup…there’s room for all three of them to succeed and twenty more people to succeed…all of them competing for a very large market…all could succeed beyond their wildest expectations.”

Toward the end of the interview while speculating a bit on theory, McKubre admits that the reaction mechanism still largely remains a black box of sorts; we still are not sure what is going on and will require further experimental data (input/output conditions) before a valid theory can be decided upon. In discussing Ed Storms’ theory of the NAE, McKubre states: “I acknowledge the existence of a NAE…what is going on is a reconfiguration of the lattice…close to the surface…[Ed’s theory] is an interesting one…if it turns out Ed is right, then my hat is off to him…he’s already done more work than anyone in the field…Ed is already a Cold Fusion hero. If it turns out [the NAE mechanism] is true…he will certainly be a candidate for the Nobel Prize…the field deserves a Nobel Prize…if he is right….I will promote him for it.”

In closing Dr. McKubre explains his shifting focus away from pure experimental research and toward helping to commercialize LENR systems.

Interview with Frank Znidarsic: a Registered Professional Electrical Engineer in the state of Pennsylvania. During his many years working in the energy sector, he has personally witnessed the limitations and decline of American Industry. Frank has written numerous peer reviewed and non peer reviewed articles on Cold Fusion, Antigravity, and Foundational Physics and has also been featured in Infinite Energy Magazine. He is also the author of the book ‘Energy, Cold Fusion and Antigravity’.

His Quantum Transition Theory (aka Z-Theory) resolves a variety of quantum enigmas (Planck’s Constant, Quantum Jumping, Energy Level of Photons) utilizing a classical approach. His theory accounts for Cold Fusion/LENR as a byproduct of the amplified magneto component of the Nuclear Strong Force (aka Spin Orbit Force), and also accounts for Antigravity as a byproduct of the amplified magneto component of the Gravitational Force. This amplification occurs when a BEC-Superconductor State is achieved in a system vibrated at a dimensional frequency of 1.094 megahertz-meters.

By exploring these topics more in depth, Frank believes that mankind can achieve an age of abundance in the not too distant future. Frank’s book can be purchased on Amazon, and more information about Frank can be found at his personal website, on YouTube, as well as at the alienscientist.com forums. A breakdown of the interview can be referenced below if so desired:

0min- 5min: Frank’s Professional and Academic Credentials; Issues with Mainstream Energy Solutions; Industrial Profit Culture; Frank’s Interest in Cold Fusion/LENR; Frank’s Interest in Anti-Gravity; Frank’s Personal Visits to NASA Marshall/James Patterson/George Miley

5min- 15min: Quantum Transition Theory; Conservation Laws and Magnetism Ex Nihilo; Magneto Amplification; Magneto Component of Strong Nuclear Force and Gravity; Meissner Effect in Superconductors; Kicking Superconductors into Quantum Transition; Quantum Transition in Patterson Cold Fusion Cells and Podkletnov Gravity Discs; Quantum Transition Velocity and Atoms; Impedance Matched Systems and Quantum Transition; Classical Derivation of Quantum Constants; Classical Physics vs. Quantum Mechanics; Einstein and Hidden Variables; Solving Photon Paradox; Exploring Amplitude vs. Frequency

16min- 23min: Feynman on Quantum Physics; Gravito-Magnetic Component and Momentum; Mutability of Gravito-Magnetism and Spin Orbit Force via Quantum Jump Stimulation; Impedance Match between Transverse Electromagnetic Wave and Longitudinal Mechanical/Sound Wave in Atoms during Transition; Range Increase of Magnetic Forces; Vibratory Transition in Bose-Einstein Condensates; Evidence for BEC /Superconductor Condition in Palladium Cathode/Proton Conductors; Why No Radiation Emissions During LENR/Cold Fusion; Amplification of Spin Orbit Force Allows for Clean Nucleon Cluster Energy Exchange

23min- 31min: Visit with Hal Puthoff; Nano-Particles and Quantum Transition in LENR Systems; Nano-Particles in Rossi and Defkalion Generators; Difficulty of Controlling Runaway Reactions; Speculative Mechanics of Superluminal Space Travel; Non-Conservation of Inertial Mass; Distinguishing Further Between Electromagnetism and Gravito-Magnetism; Conservation and Momentum; BEC Vibration Equivalent of Soft Iron Amplification

31min- 42min: Cosmo-Genesis and Ex Nihilo; Creating Something from Nothing; Rossi vs. Defkalion vs. Brillouine; Rossi’s Secret Catalyst; Irreproducibility of Patterson Cell; Mutability of Static Forces vs. Dynamic/Movement Forces; Engineering Perspective;  Dr. George Miley and LENR Transmutation Phenomena; Collaboration with Sidney Kimmel Group; Provisional Patent for Controlling LENR Reactions; Energy Cold Fusion and Antigravity Book; A New Age of Wonder for Humanity; Double Edged Sword of Controlling the Natural Forces