7 Replies to “Touching Spirit”

1. The World is full of Wonder and Mystery, when we grow up beyond money materialism and power then these things will once again become important.
   All the while science concentrates only on the restrictive reductionist philosophy of everything is a steam engine then we are getting nowhere fast.
   The World and Man are not machines but a living Wonderful unknown reality that reductionist outdated classical science has not even begun to understand.
   Until science moves beyond it’s crazy, religious doctrine of nothing exists beyond known and excepted scientific propaganda then we are standing still.

2. Greg & Ruby,

   Please don’t censor this from the forums, it is a critique offered with no ill intent. We want the site to be transparent about LENR. We welcome critique of serious scientists. Why should this topic be treated any differently?

   While this almost certainly may cause an offense, I wish to request that poetry and other arts not be attached to this web site. It goes to credibilty. Why would a site dedicated to the serious science around LENR put a poem on the site? Is there no other scientific informaton that could be displayed? Why put a poem on the site, does the serious question of LENR need to be deflected into an area that is irrelevant to it? Science by its own nature is not to be muddied by emotion. To so undermines the credibility of the message. It looks silly. If you want to do a website dedicated to the arts or environmental heart strumming, create a different web site and post it there link to it if you must. This is nothing short of an embarrassment. How can I refer a serious scientist to this web site when to do so is to out and out convey a message of subjectivity so blatant as to disqualify any other actually meaningful scientific, dispassionate, rational information? Science is called a discipline for good reason. This sort of thing is inappropriate. How many science text books have a poem section?
   Please stop this nonsense, it is a waste of energy, a deflection of purpose, a departure from logic, and purveys a loss of objectivity.

   I believe I understand why you feel you must publish this. It is to present some sort of holistic approach. But this is surely not the appropriate forum. Why intorduce some subjective opinion that a viewer would disagree with out of hand? Do we not contend with enough disagreement before the facts? Please reconsider this seriously. It makes what we do the laughing stock of science when there is no other discipline that needs credibility more. This is not a hate message. I don’t hate your poems, art etc. I just don’t see this as an appropriate forum.

   Regards,

   Owen Abrey

   1. We are successfully communicating the importance of this issue to the public, which sees no such boundaries, and we will continue to pursue Art and Science as One. The environment is important to us, and we work to honor Nature and our planet.

      Each effort to publicize this science is but one facet of a multi-dimensional narrative. No one effort can fully capture the whole story, and it is futile to try. We just do what we can, and we need every voice possible.

      I do not know what “serious scientists” you are talking about, but the scientists I know support us.

      Thank you for your input, Owen, but I think we shall continue to work for change.

      1. I’m so sorry it wasn’t clear that this is about the story of cold fusion. I have amended the post accordingly. Thank yu’all, Owen for your true insight (the article needed improvement) and Ruby for your heart and understanding.

      2. Merging Art & Science? Then you must read Science, Order, & Creativity by David Bohm & Peat.
         Wicked cool and so right on every level. All one all one see: the Undivided Universe and Wholeness & the Implicate Order. Peace & Love; Brian

         1. Brian thanks,
            I’ll take a look and read it.
            There is this on Totem, I’m fascinated by this paper…

            Critical Thinking and Analogical Thinking: A Model, Arthur L. Dirks, May 15, 1998
            Dirks, Arthur L. (1998). Critical thinking and analogical thinking: A model. Published on-line by author (http://webhost.bridgew.edu/adirks/ald/papers/analog.htm). Bridgewater, MA. Accessed [date].
            Origin: This paper originally prepared for CCT Critical Thinking, Graduate College of Education, Univ. of Mass. Boston.

            “Philosophers such as Suzanne Langer (Langer, 1942), structural anthropologists, philologists, and semioticians have tried to trace and understand the operation of our forms of expression. They have sought to unravel the complex web of inherent meaning in our expressions. Many insights have come from increased cross-disciplinary work with psychologists, and an academic thread has been developed for the study of metaphor, primarily between philosophers and cognitive scientists. George Lakoff (Lakoff, 1992), with Mark Johnson and following Michael Reddy, has argued that metaphor, contrary to past thinking, is a form of mapping across conceptual domains, not only linguistic ones. As a result, “It is a system of metaphor that structures our everyday conceptual system, including most abstract concepts, and that lies behind much of everyday language.””

3. The connect, the definition of badger is of interest… i.e. cold fusioneers.

   Is an interest generated towards Modern Totemism? Badger.

   What icon is representative of your hearts dream… Totem.

   Modern totem…. query?

   Naturally… what… now.

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