Energy Return on Energy Invested ERoEI is an important concept in fossil fuels.
Energy Return is the usable energy generated from any particular source fuel, while Energy Invested is the energy needed to produce and deliver that fuel. As a simple ratio, this gives some measure of value for a particular source of power.
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For fossil fuels, ERoEI is a moving target. This chart taken from the Post Carbon Institute video release We Are Here [watch] shows that early in the Oil Age, US domestic oil energy returns were 100 to 1 meaning, for every unit of energy used to get oil, 100 units of energy were liberated by burning it.
One-hundred-fifty years later, while greater efficiency has allowed maximum energy combustion, fossil fuel input costs have risen dramatically. Energy returns for US domestic oil have plummeted to around 3, and the trend continues lower.
In Potential Advantages and Impacts of LENR Generators of Thermal and Electrical Power and Energy published in the most recent issue of Infinite Energy #103 magazine [.pdf], author and LENR researcher David J. Nagel surveys the possible impacts that low-energy nuclear reactions LENR could have if adopted widely by the public. One of the huge factors that contribute to the cited impacts are the high-energy returns possible with LENR-based generators, also called lattice-assisted nuclear reactions LANR or cold fusion.
With LENR the energy returns are so high, the energy input becomes minute in comparison.
The reason? Cold fusion is a nuclear process. Energy is created from mass according to Einstein’s
. These types of fusion reactions are millions of times more powerful than chemical burning of fuel. Small amounts of fuel can provide large amounts of power.
But this isn’t the nuclear power that imperils our world today.
Cold fusion is a low-energy process that occurs in the tiny spaces between atoms in a metal through quantum effects and fractal resonant frequencies. A gentle nudging initiates the excess heat reaction to slowly release energy using no radioactive materials.
Units of energy are called Joules. Lifting an apple one meter against Earth’s gravity takes about 1 Joule of energy. The unit of power Watt delivers 1 Joule each 1 second.
But you don’t have to really understand what a Joule is to see the energy generated from fusion is super-dense.
| Source | Energy in Joules | in words… |
| Energy released burning 1 liter oil | |
12 million Joules |
| Electrical energy used in average home daily | |
50 million Joules |
| Energy released burning 1 kilogram coal | |
1.6 billion Joules |
| Energy released by fission of 1 kilogram uranium-235 | |
56 trillion Joules |
| Energy released by fusion of hydrogen in 1 liter of water | |
70 trillion Joules |
| US annual energy consumption | |
100 million trillion Joules |
| World annual energy consumption | |
500 million trillion Joules |
| Annual energy generation of Sun | |
10 million trillion quadrillion Joules |
Using and Understanding Math 4th ed. Bennett/Briggs
Year 2000 data Energy Information Administration eia.doe.gov

All hydrogen has one positively-charged proton at its center. Deuterium has an extra neutron, and tritium has two extra neutrons at the center. A negatively-charged electron surrounds the nucleus to make a hydrogen atom.
When protons and deuterons fuse, together with each other or other atomic nuclei in the metal host, the resulting nuclei has a slightly smaller mass than if we added up all the mass of the original nuclei together. The missing mass was turned into energy.
The fuel used in the first studies of cold fusion conducted by Drs. Fleischmann and Pons twenty-three years ago was deuterium, a hydrogen isotope. Those early types of energy-producing cells combined deuterium with the metal palladium in an electrolytic bath contained in a small Pyrex container.
Deuterium can be extracted from seawater. One out of every 6400 atoms of hydrogen in the ocean is a deuterium atom. Electrolysis is used to separate the deuterium from the hydrogen. Making a water out of deuterium D2O (instead of H2O) is called “heavy water” and is used as the liquid solution the metal electrodes are immersed in. Deuterium gas can also be “loaded” into the metal for a variation on the cell.
What is the input energy used to separate the deuterium fuel? One calculation estimated 50 kilowatt-hours for electrolysis to separate the deuterium.[1]
With this figure, fusing one gram of deuterium into helium could provide an energy return of 3,000.
The palladium metal is not consumed in the cold fusion process, and can be recycled and fashioned for use again. The energy input from metal mining turns trivial while full environmental protections during all extraction and processing become economically viable.
“There are
tons of heavy water on earth, enough to last 3.2 billion years at present energy consumption rates”, writes Jed Rothwell.[2]
That’s twenty-trillion tons of deuterium fuel – just on Earth. Taking only a tiny portion of this brings no harm to our marine ecosystem, but can power the entire world for millions of years. But that’s not all. Newer cell designs use plain hydrogen and the metal nickel. Nickel is plentiful on Earth and plain hydrogen, also called protium, is the H part of H2O making the abundance of hydrogen fuel virtually limitless.
While the extraction of oil has been subject to higher input energy costs, shrinking the energy return, the cost for producing hydrogen is likely to go down, reducing the energy input for cold fusion and allowing the energy return to move even higher.
And if that doesn’t already sound too good to be true, there’s even more.
A particular feature of the cold fusion technology is “self-sustain” mode, whereby the reaction does not require energy input to either initiate, or, continue. Experiments performed by JP Biberian and his team diffusing deuterium gas into a pure palladium nanopowders required no electrical input to initiate the excess heat effect. Andrea Rossi‘s Ecat has operated in self-sustain mode when, after initiating the generator, the input power was turned off, and the generator kept running.
When there is no energy input, the denominator of the Energy Gain ratio is zero, which makes the ratio approach infinity. This feature is key to the enormous returns that cold fusion energy generators can provide. But these generators won’t “runaway”. Getting too hot melts the metal material hosting the reaction, destroying the nuclear active environment, and stopping the process.
ERoEI is a measure of the Oil Age. To apply the ERoEI concept to cold fusion is like trying to use Newtonian mechanics at the speed of light where Relativity is required.
Perhaps the most important feature of cold fusion energy is its cleanness. Using no radioactive fuel, emitting no CO2 emissions, and creating no radioactive waste, cold fusion offers a second chance for humanity to set right the ecological damage wrought by one-hundred-fifty years of fossil fuel consumption and unrestrained exponential growth, freeing humankind to peacefully explore the meaning of life on Earth with a renewed optimism and vigor.
There are other measures of energy gain that apply to the technology itself, the efficiency of the device, the quality of the steam product, etc. These will be elucidated in further posts.
Cold Fusion Now!
[1] Abd ul-Rahman Lomax estimated:
“Deuterium can be purchased for under $0.50 per gram. If the
electricity costs $0.01 per kilowatt-hour, then the production of a
gram of deuterium could take about 50 KWH. (Basically, they
electrolyze the water over and over. Each cycle increases the
deuterium fraction, because of preferential evolution of hydrogen, as
I understand it.)
A gram of deuterium fused to make a gram of helium will release,
because of the very slight loss of mass in the formation of helium,
23.8 MeV per He-4. A gram of helium contains Avogadro’s number of
helium atoms divided by four, the atomic weight of helium, or about
1.5 x 10^23 atoms. Producing this helium, then, releases 35 x 10^23
MeV, which is about 150,000 KWH. ERoEI of 3,000. ”
[2] Cold Fusion and the Future by Jed Rothwell [read]











“A volume about the size of a #2 pencil eraser of water provides as much energy as two 48-gallon drums of gasoline. That is 355,000 times the amount of energy per volume – five orders of magnitude.” ( http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/New-LENR-Machine-is-the-Best-Yet.html ).
My spit could power my car for a week (actually I have a SmartCar, so make that a couple of weeks)!
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Round the world on a bathroom break:)
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Now if we could just make it work!!
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James,
Here is a great example of… It works!
http://www.sacbee.com/2012/05/22/4507447/electricity-generated-from-water.html
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Re anna v and Dave Michalets above.It seems that Dave thinks that ITER is sehmoow a huge machine; which he thinks is a boondoggle.I don’t know beans about ITER, since I just haven’t kept up on fusion research, so this thread actually is my introduction to ITER.But we can put ITER in perspective by just considering the NIF facility in Livermore Ca; which isn’t more than about ten miles via crow from where I am sitting.The 192 laser beams that operate in NIF operate at an optical power level of 500TerraWatts, that exceeeds the entire electric power capacity of every powerplant in the USA, including all those portable Honda units that are popular in hurrican and flooding regions of the USA. Fortuately for the power grid; that laser blast only lasts for about 20-30 nanoseconds; and the final output energy from the nuclear fusion that may occur when they squish the pea sized Berrylium fuel capsule; may possibly make a cup of coffee; but that’s about all.In these systems, energy levels tend to go up as volume while losses tend to go up as surface area; so bigger is better; and as anna explains you have to scale existing tokamak designs to larger sizes to win at that game.Now the NIF coffee maker is only the size of a ten storey building; and the laser light travels about 305m or so, for each of the 192 beams, so it is a massive machine.But it is still miniscule compared to a wind farm, or a PEV solar farm, or even conventional power plants.I’m not as confident as Anna is that controlled fusion will ever work; but then she is the one who has worked in this high energy Physics field; so I take her inputs very seriously.The size of ITER doesn’t faze me a bit; except I still don’t see how they plan to extract energy from it. I gather that the exit mechanism is to let the neutrons escape (how are you going to stop them from escaping) and then sehmoow gather the kinetic energy of the neutrons into some thermal form.Which is actually quite ingenious since the neutrons aren’t subject to the magnetic bottle confinement. You still have to sehmoow get actual fuel in and waste products out.I don’t have a problem with a multinational program of this magnitude pursuing such a goal; despite the fact that I have very low confidence in its success; and I shudder to think what a pickle we will be in, if and when they succeed.As for Blacklight energy systems; I’ll just wait until I can buy one off the shelf down at Fry’s. Those guys wouldn’t even get a hearing on the Art Bell Dreamland radio program.George
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Wondering Aloud (07:00:57) : Thank you E. M. Smith You are most welcome. I just rebemmered that India had made a bomb using it and that there was a lot of it around. I suspect that the early US Th program was shelved and focus put on U rather than Th as a way to deflect rogue states away from the U233 back door. But now that India has gone and done it, the point is moot. Basically, you can cook some Th for a short time, chemically separate U233, use it to easily make small effective bombs, and bypass the whole enrichment boondoggle. Using a CANDU type reactor this would be near trivial (which is why the US tried very hard to drive it out of the market with big and expensive light water reactors). By ignoring Th, you were left with U enrichment and / or Pu production from U (that is complicated by the number of U isotopes back to enrichment ) where Th has less isotopic complication. Really a neat intelligence coup, if you think about it. Even Pakistan went down the centrifuge path and Iran is following it. (And I would not be saying any of this were it not for the fact that the present push for Thorium based commercial power implies to me that the whole issue has been mooted by current events i.e. Pakistan, India, North Korea, Israel, probably Iran Real Soon Now, etc. and India having made a bomb from Power Reactor Pu just to prove the point that they could )Nuclear fission is the cleanest safest and most practical way to go, so I suppose the US will continue to ignore it. Yup. AND we’re going to ignore our vast coal reserves and oil shale too No, we just MUST have a shortage and the only way to do that is to get all those giant quantities of energy supply off limits by hook or by crook So Hansen and Gore are making carbon off limits. Established nuclear fears have put U and Th off limits. And what is promoted? The Someday Real Soon Now hydrogen economy and fusion both conveniently a generation or two beyond reach. While I strongly believe the mantra Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity , there is a very well fitted pattern here that is not, IMHO, adequately explained by stupidity What to make of it, though, is a place I’m not ready to visit. Yet.
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